Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One explores the first movement in someone’s journey toward change, waking up.  To lay the groundwork, not only for this episode but the episodes to come in this series, each host shares some of the experiences that put them on the path of deconstruction.  Because of the benefit of highsight, insight is given into the difficulty and eventual freedom in the deconstruction process.  Toward the end of the main conversation we share a relevant portion of an interview with Debbie Glander, LMFT.  Debbie’s insights into the negative effects of many fundamentalists communities is invaluable. The episode closes with a segment called This or That.  Once again during the segment Jeff and Rajeev enter into their timeless battle about what makes pizza pizza.  Progressivism and Fundamentalism once again do battle on the cheesy field of goodness. Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One: Waking Up (01:06)Portion of Interview w/ Debbie Glander, LMFT (30:14)This or That Segment (41:52) ANNOUNCEMENTS Sign up for our email list and get the full interview Bonnie conducted with Debbie Glander, LMFT. To learn more about Intersection and sign up for our next session go to TheIntersections.Space RELEVANT LINKS From Our Conversation on Beyond the Binary of Deconstruction and Reconstruction Part One: Waking Up Saved (2004 Film) Matrix (1999 Film) Intersections Roundtable – A Community of EXvangelicals and UNfundies – 113 (Irenicast Episode) More about Intersections Mr. Burns (Simpsons Character) From Our This or That Segment Every Night is Pizza Night by Kenji Lopez-Alt (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)   MORE ON DEBBIE GLANDER, LMFT Debbie is a licensed marriage and family therapist maintaining a private practice in Davis, California. She has received her undergraduate degree in Social Work at California State University of Sacramento and graduate degree in counseling from The University of San Francisco.  Personal commitment to her own growth and transformation has inspired her to specialize in working with individuals and families as a Psychotherapist. Her therapeutic approach is to provide support and feedback to help clients regulate their emotions and express their needs in healthy and adaptive ways. Her practice is dedicated to building a relationship with clients that is based on respect, empathy, professionalism and honesty. Visit Debbie's website for more on her work. SUPPORT THE SHOW You can always count on Irenicast providing a free podcast on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every month.  However, that does not mean that we do not have expense related to the show.  If we have provided value to you and you would like to support the show, here are a few options.  PAYPAL - You can make a one-time, or recurring, tax-deductible donation to the show through PayPal. Just go to Irenicast.com/PayPal to make your donation. We are a 501(c)(3). MERCH - Irenicast has a merch store at Irenicast.com/Store.  We are always developing more items so check out our current offerings.   AMAZON - Next time you go to make a purchase on Amazon consider using our Amazon affiliate link.  This will give us a small portion on everything you purchase.  No additional cost will be passed on to you. IRENCAST HOSTS Rev. Bonnie Rambob, MDiv | co-host | bonnie@irenicast.comYou can connect with Bonnie on Facebook and at Parkside Community Church-UCC and haystackspodcast.com. Pastor Casey Martinez-Tinnin, MTS | co-host | casey@irenicast.comYou can follow Casey on Twitter and Facebook, or you can check out his blog The Queerly Faithful Pastor or loomisucc.org Jeff Manildi | co-founder, producer & co-host | jeff@irenicast.comFollow Jeff (@JeffManildi) on facebook, instagram & twitter.  You can also listen to Jeff’s other podcast Divine Cinema. Rev. Rajeev Rambob, MCL | co-host | rajeev@irenicast.comYou can connect with Rajeev at Parkside Community Church,  Facebook, Twitter, Medium, LinkedIn, and Haystacks Podcast.   ADD YOUR VOICE TO THE CONVERSATION Join our progressive Christian conversations on faith and culture by interacting with us through the following links: Read Us on our blog Irenicon Email Us at podcast@irenicast.comFollow Us on Twitter Like Us on Facebook Listen & Subscribe to Us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Android, Spotify, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart Radio, Spreaker, Pandora and SoundCloud Speak to Us on our Feedback Page and the Post Evangelical Facebook Group See Us on Instagram Support Us on PayPal, Amazon or at our Store Love Us? CREDITS Intro and Outro music created by Mike Golin.   This post may contain affiliate links.  An Irenicon is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com