Today, you will hear my conversation with one of the OGs of the Internet, Perry Marshall. Let me tell you a little bit about Perry. He is undoubtedly one of the most experienced Internet Marketers of all time. If there’s ever an internet marketing hall of fame, he would be inducted in the first round. I remember crossing Perry’s path way back in my early days as an online business builder, long before this podcast was even an idea, let alone a full show. I remember thinking how smart he was then, and let me tell you -- he’s even smarter now. You will hear Perry talk about his early days online, how he got involved, how he positioned himself with Google AdWords until he recognized hitching his brand to a platform he didn’t own was not a great idea. He’s written a ton about how to market and sell online, including “80/20 Sales and Marketing -- the Definitive Guide to Working Less and Making More.” You all know how much I love a good book title -- this is exceptional. And what’s inside will blow your mind. Perry has consulted across 300+ industries, shaping the $400B digital ad space. He’s the founder of the $10M Evolution 2.0 Prize and co-founder of the Cancer & Evolution Working Group. Perry’s insights bridge the worlds of marketing, science, and entrepreneurship, making him a must-listen for anyone seeking growth and innovation. You can find Perry on his website: https://perrymarshall.com Get Perry's offer here: https://perrymarshall.com/podcast  = = = = = Join the AI Conversation You've Been Waiting to Have without the Hype or the Noise.  Get my books here:   The River Only Runs One Way  The Far Unlit Unknown = = = = = Thank you for supporting the show! Your 5-star rating and review makes a difference -- it's easy to leave one and it helps spread the word about the podcast! Best social places to connect with me:  @maryloukayser (Instagram) https://www.linkedin.com/in/mlkayser/ (LinkedIn)