This conversation explores the resilience of Afghan women under the Taliban regime, the impact of the Taliban's return on Afghan society, and the critical need for justice in Afghanistan. Huma Saeed shares her insights on the struggles faced by Afghan women, their creative ways of pursuing education, and the misrepresentation of their experiences in the media. The discussion also highlights the importance of addressing the past to achieve peace and stability in Afghanistan. In this conversation, the complexities of transitional justice, particularly in the context of Afghanistan is discussed at length. The discussion highlights the delicate balance between security and human rights, the importance of civil society, and the resilience of the Afghan people amidst ongoing crises. Huma emphasizes the necessity of a new peace process, drawing parallels with Colombia's experience, and reflects on the beauty and diversity of Afghanistan. Keywords Afghanistan, Taliban, Afghan women, resilience, education, justice, transitional justice, Huma Syed, Meenu Gupta, transitional justice, Afghanistan, human rights, peace, security, civil society, women's rights, conflict resolution, social contract, humanitarian crisis Takeaways -The resilience of Afghan women is remarkable despite severe restrictions. -The Taliban's return was anticipated due to prior negotiations. -Afghan women have historically found creative ways to pursue education. -The media often portrays Afghan women through a victim lens. -Justice and accountability are crucial for Afghanistan's future. -Many Afghans identify as victims of war and seek justice. -The Bonn Conference excluded the Taliban, leading to future conflicts. -Warlords were reintegrated into power, undermining justice efforts. -Online education remains a possibility for some Afghan girls. -The past must be addressed to move forward effectively.  -Transitional justice is about addressing the past. -Civil society plays a crucial role in transitional justice. -Afghans desire peace and normalcy in their lives. -The Taliban regime poses significant challenges. -Security often compromises human rights in Afghanistan. -A new peace process is essential for Afghanistan's future. -Afghanistan's beauty lies in its diversity and resilience. -The Afghan people are generous and hospitable. -Advocacy must include the voices of the affected communities. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Afghan Women's Resilience 05:58 The Role of Afghan Women Under Taliban Rule 12:01 The Image of Afghan Women in Media 18:11 The Consequences of Ignoring Justice 23:50 Conclusion: Moving Forward with Justice 36:17 The Human Experience: A World Within Us 43:06 Challenges of Transitional Justice in Afghanistan 52:46 The Dilemma of Security vs. Human Rights 01:00:16 A Beautiful Image of Afghanistan 01:07:11 The Personal Journey of Advocacy